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Permalink Reply by Melissa Garrett on April 17, 2012 at 6:33pm

I have to say this song feels soulless to me. The trouble with electronics is that you lose that "connection" - the feeling that real people are making the music. It reminds me a little of the plot to "We Will Rock You", where all music in the future is made by computers not people. Unfortunately the track feels empty to me because of it. I also wonder if their new pledge to put out material faster than previously has meant them falling back on simple formulas or having to rush, rather than finding the uniqueness of every track they way they always have.

Really hoping the rest of the album is more . . . IDK . . . "real".

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Smith on April 17, 2012 at 8:17pm

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

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Permalink Reply by Dana on April 17, 2012 at 8:24pm

I really like the electronic sound to it. It's not what I'm used to hearing from LP, but I'm sure after hearing so many different sounds from these guys over the years, it seems that fans would come to expect something different on every album.  Personally, I like it a lot. My favorite parts would definitely be the chorus, and Mike's verse. I feel like Mike's part could have been written better, but he's got a really good sound on this song. The entire song, to me, sounds very nice and professional as I have seen some comments say. Love it, can't wait to hear more!

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Permalink Reply by Melissa Garrett on April 17, 2012 at 8:28pm

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by Avo on April 17, 2012 at 9:48pm

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by Alan on April 17, 2012 at 10:20pm

Well here we go again another journey I willingly take into the creative minds of this group. 12 years ago I was hypnotized by the sound of Hybrid Theory. Then came Meteora. Could it really get better YEP! Then Minutes to Midnight.... not what I wanted from this band for sure, but I surprisingly liked the direction change to a more modern rock, finally the last attempt was A Thousand Suns.. a great album overall I think, but I felt like it was missing the other half ... at the end of the album I felt like it lead me to the edge of a cliff wondering what was suppose to be on the other side or at the bottom without closure. So I am hoping for greatness from Living Things. 

As far as Burn It Down is concerned. 1st single is a home run. I love the song, I hope it is a shining light for what is to come with the new album. I will be waiting.. if it is, then I will be there day one like I was with Meteora and Minutes to Midnight.

For those of us who want HT or Meteora back its never happening if we haven't figured it out by now, but if you listen to the tracks they have now and really listen to them you will find something I almost certain is better. 

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Permalink Reply by daniel lazarov on April 17, 2012 at 10:31pm

well most of the fans are not teenage girls to listen electro music.and shut up with this electronics are not bad they are not making them worse.every real fan of LP who loved them from the beggining likes nu metal because thats their style.and this means i need to change my taste of music just for LP experiments. no thanks.they can experiment with different things maybe death metal or gothic metal.who knows.but not crapped electronics.they are heading to the same wrong way as Korn and i dont like this.

cant you see LP are loosing more and more of their fans?Less people are coming to concerts because they dont want to listen ATS.what will be the future of LP from the greatest nu metal band ever lived to what?electro rock crap?

 

so think about it before you say about how you hate when someone say electronics are screwing them up.every LP fan likes their nu metal style.

Avo said:

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by Melissa Garrett on April 18, 2012 at 12:14am

Yeah, I hope it was just me overreacting! Unfortunately I've had people like that attack me on other forums simply for not liking this one song, and they automatically lumped me in with the "haters" who won't move past HT/M, so for a minute there it looked like it was happening again. That's hurtful, you know, because anyone that knows me will tell you they don't come bigger fans than me! I really have loved everything from HT to ATS and been here from the beginning - I'm just assuming my not taking to this one is an aberration and I'll love other tracks on LT.


Avo said:

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by daniel lazarov on April 18, 2012 at 12:52am

well so thats it?LP is dead? if they continue that way they will be dead.

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Permalink Reply by Michaela Bačíková on April 18, 2012 at 1:25am

If you don't like the new sound, then please, DON'T LISTEN TO IT! Find something else that you like.

I think LP showed us that their band isn't about metal or nu-metal at all. Their band isn't about one single never changing style. Their music is about creativity, instant changing and doing something that's never been done before each and every time. They're creative people, who like doing new things.

And if you look at some really good world famous bands, for example Pink Floyd, Queen - they too had very good songs and albums but also very experimental and weird. And still their fans like them.

The more I listen to this new song the more I like it and it's like an addiction. And I'm sure the new album will ROCK!

If you don't agree, please shut the hell up and go listen to something else. Buy a boxing bag and go break it. I don't care.

daniel lazarov said:

well most of the fans are not teenage girls to listen electro music.and shut up with this electronics are not bad they are not making them worse.every real fan of LP who loved them from the beggining likes nu metal because thats their style.and this means i need to change my taste of music just for LP experiments. no thanks.they can experiment with different things maybe death metal or gothic metal.who knows.but not crapped electronics.they are heading to the same wrong way as Korn and i dont like this.

cant you see LP are loosing more and more of their fans?Less people are coming to concerts because they dont want to listen ATS.what will be the future of LP from the greatest nu metal band ever lived to what?electro rock crap?

 

so think about it before you say about how you hate when someone say electronics are screwing them up.every LP fan likes their nu metal style.

Avo said:

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by daniel lazarov on April 18, 2012 at 1:37am

all bands experiment but with things close to their style.they could experiment with other metal style not electronics and im not listening to fcked bands like queen.i like only metal.well at least what i readed LPplayed 5 new songs for music magazine SPIN and they sayed that they were from an old family recipe.they song lost in the echo have guitar attack,tribal drums and some brutal screams.so wait to june and i cant wait to laught in the face of idiots like you who are with LP at the wrong time.thats not for them.

Michaela Bačíková said:

If you don't like the new sound, then please, DON'T LISTEN TO IT! Find something else that you like.

I think LP showed us that their band isn't about metal or nu-metal at all. Their band isn't about one single never changing style. Their music is about creativity, instant changing and doing something that's never been done before each and every time. They're creative people, who like doing new things.

And if you look at some really good world famous bands, for example Pink Floyd, Queen - they too had very good songs and albums but also very experimental and weird. And still their fans like them.

The more I listen to this new song the more I like it and it's like an addiction. And I'm sure the new album will ROCK!

If you don't agree, please shut the hell up and go listen to something else. Buy a boxing bag and go break it. I don't care.

daniel lazarov said:

well most of the fans are not teenage girls to listen electro music.and shut up with this electronics are not bad they are not making them worse.every real fan of LP who loved them from the beggining likes nu metal because thats their style.and this means i need to change my taste of music just for LP experiments. no thanks.they can experiment with different things maybe death metal or gothic metal.who knows.but not crapped electronics.they are heading to the same wrong way as Korn and i dont like this.

cant you see LP are loosing more and more of their fans?Less people are coming to concerts because they dont want to listen ATS.what will be the future of LP from the greatest nu metal band ever lived to what?electro rock crap?

 

so think about it before you say about how you hate when someone say electronics are screwing them up.every LP fan likes their nu metal style.

Avo said:

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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Permalink Reply by Avo on April 18, 2012 at 1:55am

Yeah I know how you feel. It's perfectly alright to not like songs from your favorite artists though. I've been listening to LP since HT, but now I'm not a huge fan of either HT or Meteora anymore, but I love ATS and MTM especially. That's why Burn it Down just seems like a step back to me. Kinda like New Divide 2.0. It just feels really generic because I was expecting them to continue experimenting.

Melissa Garrett said:

Yeah, I hope it was just me overreacting! Unfortunately I've had people like that attack me on other forums simply for not liking this one song, and they automatically lumped me in with the "haters" who won't move past HT/M, so for a minute there it looked like it was happening again. That's hurtful, you know, because anyone that knows me will tell you they don't come bigger fans than me! I really have loved everything from HT to ATS and been here from the beginning - I'm just assuming my not taking to this one is an aberration and I'll love other tracks on LT.


Avo said:

His comment obviously wasn't directed at you. Most likely just the people who think all electronic music is "gay", that metal is superior, and that LP should stop experimenting and regress to their former poppy selves. You know, the same three people on this forum who believe they speak for the rest of us.

Melissa Garrett said:

Jeff Smith said:

I hate the ppl who r saying that linkin park is screwing up by turning to a more electronic sound and its bad. They arent using a whole lot more electronic sounds than they used to, its simply more distinct. And ppl hating on any band that uses any electronic sounds at all are simple minded and ignorant to the changing of music in culture. Most bands now use some sort of electronic sounds in their music (dont mistake that for all, for those of u smartasses who think ur going to call me out on that crap) and there is no reason they would do better without it. Those of you who think this way will eventually all die out leaving only the people who have come to know electronic sounds as part of what music is (not saying all bands will use it but it will not be dissed for being what it is or how ppl think it sounds) because society will change like that it is inevitable. quit dissing on what is only beneficial and a part of human life (change). Think for a change. Dont be so stubbornly single-minded. Its not going to become the only kind of music or what music is made by, it will be a part of music that all will come to accept because of the unique sounds it can produce.

Don't be so rude. Some people simply are very sensitive to "energies" and can tell when people are playing or not and find that it feels different, and I'm afraid that's a fact, so stop being such a miserable bastard. I never said they didn't use electronic sounds in the past or that I didn't like them when used judiciously, I said this song is relying too much on them for me. BIG difference. And if you actually read my posts I'm not one of these people that think their whole direction is "screwing up" - I've loved EVERYTHING to date, thank you very much. I'm allowed to not like one song and it doesn't mean I'm abandoning the band or ranting about old and new styles. Nor am I some bloody techno-phobe, before you start - I've actually worked as a computer trouble-shooter in the past. This one feels empty to me. That's my opinion. Deal with it and stop acting as if someone having a different opinion is some kind of personal attack on you.

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