I personally think its a good thing, changing your sound, Metallica allthough considerd very good has songs that sound so much alike from one to another, it gets boring.
i think it's a great song. i love the way it doesn't have a clear verse or chorus and how the music is constantly changing.
The vocal line in the first half is a bit repetitive, but the way the music progresses and builds offsets that repetition.
I hope the rest of the album pushes their songwriting like this has.
I have to facepalm and then laugh at people calling "sellout!" when they such a hard on for Meteora.
The Catalyst is 5:42 in lenght, has well written lyrics and has no formulaic radio-friendly structure but instead an ever changing form. How in sweet fuck is that a money grab?
Meteora on the other hand... every song;
-is around 3 minutes long
-has universal "so-vague-literally-anyone-can-relate" lyrics
-formulaic intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus structure
-the life was beaten out of it by Don Gilmore overproducing it and making them re-write everything a thousand times
Any song from Meteora could be a single i.e. It's fucking perfect for radio play. And it was intentionally built that way at the behest of the label.
Netanel Barasch said:I personally think its a good thing, changing your sound, Metallica allthough considerd very good has songs that sound so much alike from one to another, it gets boring.
You haven't done your Metallica homework, they spent about 15 years away from their roots experimenting with different styles of music including blues, southern rock, grunge, country and working with a Symphony Orchestra.
No ur missing the point here, they are doing what they want to do, not selling out. If you think meteora and hybrid theory didnt have SELL OUT songs, or radio play on them your insane, Hybrid theory had 4 top charting singles and could have had more. Mikes raps were changes from the original 9 song demo as you can see when you listen to the demos, they made it more commercial. That was a commercial record or a sell out if you wanted to call it. The album wasnt even given any real credit by the critics, came after Limp Bizkit and Korn smashing the effort and WE THE FANS made it one of the biggest rock albums of the year. Meteora was the most successful album on the rock charts ever and that is based soley on radio play and the song SESSION that you say couldnt be successful or on the radio was nominated for a grammy for Gods sake and went on movies and TV shows. Even this album didnt get great reviews and was considered as hybrid theory 2 and the last of the numetal rap era of music. Again WE THE FANS made it what it was. Billboard called it a READY MADE CROWD PLEASER lol. OK MY POINT these would be so much closer to sell out albums and songs.
M2M has made many fans upset, LP did it because they wanted to do it and explore new areas as they have gotten older. If they wanted to sell out, another Hybrid Theory would be scooped up by fans and hit platinum easily. This route WITH Catalyst and this new albums direction is the same thing, experimenting with new styles and doing something different and what they want to do, the exact OPPOSITE OF SELLLING OUT.
And if they did play the same Hybrid Theory sound I personally would love it, there my favorite albums by far the first 3. But I do like and appreciate what they are putting out now and with M2M and can hear the same MESSAGE OF KIDS WITH NO PLACE TO RUN. I escape into there music all the time, its just not an entire album like HT or Meteora, they are not kids anymore dealing with child abuse, growing up, drugs etc they have matured and there style has changed with there age, but still keep there LP edge on some songs and the overall vibe of an album has the LP feel. People will love or hate M2M and will Love or Hate A thousand Suns, but old LP is dead, deal with it and just love LP if your a fan or play the 3 albums that you loved so much, but go to a live show because they still kill it LIVE.
The demos was the style lp wanted to put out, the label changed it and took out much of the rap, and even recommended to not have shinoda rap at all. This was a label making music for the masses, selling out. Saying a band is selling out when there expanding there horizons, changing producers, doing side projects and purposely have left the overdone numetal sound is just incorrect. Your opinion of not liking a style change is one thing, but calling them sellouts is incorrect or using the wrong word period. M2M was far from safe, formulaic or watever bs ur tryen to call it, it was just as solid as hybrid n meteora but almost as if a different band had created it, that was the producer change and the new direction lp wanted, not a radio, mainstream attempt by lp, what do they have to prove in sales or fan recognition at this point. To say M2M is pop punk emo rock as a negative thing lol wat the hell is hybrid n meteora, pop punk, emo mainstream numetal. They get hated on by many rock fans for playing that style. That is what they are and if u think M2M is that as well then they didn't even change. And if u think they made M2M to change with the american trend of mainstream then u don't know lp.
But realistically, MTM does mostly hold the same formula that made LP's nu-metal children so popular, but only in a more mainstream way. I was shocked with how much it sounded like Green Day and shit, and pissed with how many people actually compared the two. I think Frederic Evans makes a great point with Peppers: they have matured over the years and made different music, but kept their signature style, as opposed to LP who had completely changed their DNA. At first I thought MTM was made just to join the mainstream and sell more records, and was actually happy with that. That meant I could pray that MTM doesn't sell as well as the previous two, in which case LP would realise what prings the big bucks and make another album which I would orgasm upon hearing. My wish did come true, but...
Then came the Catalyst.
It is clear that they have stayed the same (MTM same) which reopens the "why they changed" question. And I think it became clear that they HAVE changed personally, and, alas, that leaves no hope. They have become what they've become, and there's nothing left to do now but to buy a Slipknot album.
Oh, almost forgot... Hate it.