Why are so many people out there not liking it!!!!!

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Because it is a step in the wrong direction!
Firstly, it seems to be a departure from democracy in the team, of which Mike said in a promotion MTM. ATS seems to be clearly dominated by Mike's vision of music.The way in which fellows from the LP talking about their positive attitude for the album can be compared to Clinton's famous sentence, which was to be in denial of his affair with Monica Lewinsky: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman ". Especially that the fellows avoiding their eyes the camera lens and wiping sweaty hands in pants, tells the truth about the spoken sentences.
I think the reason that none of fellows (being sober), does not say Mike what he really thinks is his loyalty as Mike's friend.
I appreciate Mike for his musical passion and his sincere commitment to social work (as seen in eyes and voice timbre, when he talks about aid to Haiti)


The problem is not that the 2/3 of LP does not fully identified with the ATS but that do not seeing no opportunity for expression, they may not have a sense of importance for the team. And this is the greatest threat to the team as a whole.
The second problem is too many synthetic sounds supplant emotions, giving the LP songs artificial nature , and artificiality (lack of emotion) is what kills the rock songs and leading to drowning in a sea of pop groups.
Rock is the music which consists of the charismatic vocal and guitar riffs, percussion accents and the electronic sounds can serve merely as a spice not the base.
Rock band is a whole in which every member is important.
Excellent electronic music can make a man like Jean-Michel Jarre.
Those many people not liking it are those people who doesn't like the new sound of LP. They are close minded in my opinion, complaining and not having anything better to put in the table. Reviews have been mixed, some older fans have abandoned ship, while new ones come on board. After all, LP is a group of talented individuals who likes to try something they haven't tried before. They knew the risk of losing some fans from the start when they decided on changing the sound of their album. It's really a matter of opinion, A lot of people, like me, loves the new sound of their album. And don't tell me I'm a kiss ass because I have valid reasons to like the new sound of ATS. I'm a very picky person when it comes to the choice of music that I listen to, what I hate I discard without a lot of discussion.

Why I love ATS:
-The album has a theme and a heart.
-it's something I've never heard of from the band. It stands out
-it's beautifully crafted like a giant wall of art. They added some short instrumental songs that are like transitions more than songs, very creative; it's like one long song instead of a group of singles
-it's relaxing and exciting at the same time
-although there maybe some synthetic sounds used on it, they were used perfectly, skillfully and purposefully. And I don't see why this should be a reason not to listen to the new album, it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme. Of course they can still make those heavy guitar albums if they want to, but they chose to evolve and adapt. Again, nothing wrong with it, there are some sounds you cannot make without using some technology.
-Chester's vocal proves that he can sing anything
-everything fits
-the songs are beautiful. the lyrics are outstanding and retains the solid skill of LP as great song writers. I say, as long as they don't sing about nonsense they'll always be the same Linkin Park that we all love.
-I find myself listening to it over and over and OVER again

What I wish they should have done:
-make 2 albums: one for the new direction, and one for the older fans, like a tribute album. I heard Mike has like a compilation of 700+ songs that they made that they keep.
-made more songs. Turn some instrumental songs into songs with vocals.
-make albums faster lol. But No pressure though, I don't want the albums to turn out horrible.

As I think the new album is greatly influenced by Mike, I also think that the other band members are equally involved in the change of direction. I don't believe that Mike was the only one who agreed to the change because the sole purpose for their side projects, like Fort Minor and Dead by Sunrise, is for the band members who wants to do something only they want and have the creative freedom to do it on their own bands, so far only Chester and Mike did their side projects. So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.


valkriz said:
They are close minded in my opinion, complaining and not having anything better to put in the table. And don't tell me I'm a kiss ass because I have valid reasons to like the new sound of ATS. I'm a very picky person when it comes to the choice of music that I listen to, what I hate I discard without a lot of discussion.



valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme.

So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.
valkriz said:
They are close minded in my opinion



If you do not have a strong argument that the easiest way is to offend critics.


valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme.



It seems to me that you do not understand the meaning of songs!


valkriz said:
So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.

Excuse me, but for understanding the basic mechanisms governing social groups (such as the band) does not need to be a sociologist (like me)
If the groups were not dominated by individuals with stronger personalities (in this case, Mike and Chester), you would live in a world of chaos. And our original ancestors of humanity would not develop civilization, because they would be eaten by predators nearby. The reasons for which the record is so clearly dominated by Mike's vison, in my opinion, are entering Chester's private sphere, so I will not dwell on this topic.


Peggy from Poland said:
valkriz said:
They are close minded in my opinion



If you do not have a strong argument that the easiest way is to offend critics.


valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme.



It seems to me that you do not understand the meaning of songs!


valkriz said:
So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.

Excuse me, but for understanding the basic mechanisms governing social groups (such as the band) does not need to be a sociologist (like me)
If the groups were not dominated by individuals with stronger personalities (in this case, Mike and Chester), you would live in a world of chaos. And our original ancestors of humanity would not develop civilization, because they would be eaten by predators nearby. The reasons for which the record is so clearly dominated by Mike's vison, in my opinion, are entering Chester's private sphere, so I will not dwell on this topic.


Who said I was arguing here? didn't I say it's a matter of opinion? And for the record, whether you like it or not, I think that if you complain about the album and yet you do not even have a clue as to why its so bad, then that counts as being CLOSE MINDED.You, saying that its all Mike's idea isn't saying anything about why this is a bad album at all. On the contrary, I think its presumptuous because you do not know any of them on a personal level. There's a fine line between theory and facts. Telling you you're close minded isn't meant to be offensive, it's meant to tell you that your missing on something unless you open up your mind. I can offend you in so many ways, but I chose not to.lol, just chill.

And how am I not able to understand songs? lol, I would like to hear your opinion about songs if you care to type that at all, because I do not know how to answer you if you don't tell me why you think I do not understand songs..you say that technology masks the emotions put into the voice of the vocalist, but then if you use technology properly, the voice wouldn't be affected at all. There are just some added effects, and LP was aiming for that, added effects, nothing more. In the new album, chester's and Mike's voice wasn't messed up by anything, I can hear his emotions properly and accurately...the messenger, waiting for the end, iridescent? they are all very beautifully sung by Chester and Mike specially iridescent. have you heard them at all. I'm starting to think you didn't even give the album a chance

And lastly, what you discussed above, all those -social groups- lesson..did you know that in small groups, there can exist a system where there is NO dominance, if the group is composed of people who will not abide by one trying to gain dominance over the others? lol I'm not saying you're wrong, just saying that a large group is not equal to a smaller group and there are certain exceptions.
valkriz said:
So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.



valkriz said:
Who said I was arguing here? didn't I say it's a matter of opinion? And for the record, whether you like it or not, I think that if you complain about the album and yet you do not even have a clue as to why its so bad




Shortening argument, which I explain above, if the LP will go the way indicated by this album is the first step to the disintegration of the group



valkriz said:
I think its presumptuous because you do not know any of them on a personal level. There's a fine line between theory and facts.


However, on You Tube, there are dozens of recordings from which I can draw conclusions!





valkriz said:
And how am I not able to understand songs? lol, I would like to hear your opinion about songs
valkriz said:

it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme.




This is a fragment of the Robot Boy

You say / you're not gonna fight /
'cause no one will fight for you
And you think / there's not enough love
and no one to give it to
And you're sure
you've hurt for so long
you've got nothing left to lose
So you say / you're not gonna fight
'cause no one will fight for you



At what point here is thrilled about "man and MACHINES" or "MAN-MACHINE theme"???


valkriz said:
did you know that in small groups, there can exist a system where there is NO dominance, if the group is composed of people who will not abide by one trying to gain dominance over the others?



Sorry there are not groups in which there are no decision-making center!!!
For the simple reason that the group could achieve its objectives, someone must define them!

Speaking of goals does not mean I fight for money, etc. Small communities are integrating around common needs (ensure the safety of children, the fight against polluters).

The main difference between a small group and large, lies in the fact that in small leadership is achieved through his own charisma and not money or birth.

And though neither Mike or Chester does not look at themselves as pillars of their own group, objectively, by their own charisma perform such roles

For me here Chester is representative of a more rock vision of LP in the opposition to Mike's rap-electro

As in any modern society, until the two opposing options are freedom of expression, gains the entire society (in this case: LP)

If any part can not say, it breaks the whole!



Peggy from Poland said:
valkriz said:
So if Mike was the only one who wanted this change, then he would've made a side project out of it for himself, but that's not the case because they all AGREED on the new direction. They are perfectionists, and as a perfectionist myself, I doubt any one of them would've let the album be released without their approval.



valkriz said:
Who said I was arguing here? didn't I say it's a matter of opinion? And for the record, whether you like it or not, I think that if you complain about the album and yet you do not even have a clue as to why its so bad




Shortening argument, which I explain above, if the LP will go the way indicated by this album is the first step to the disintegration of the group



valkriz said:
I think its presumptuous because you do not know any of them on a personal level. There's a fine line between theory and facts.


However, on You Tube, there are dozens of recordings from which to draw conclusions!





valkriz said:
And how am I not able to understand songs? lol, I would like to hear your opinion about songs
valkriz said:

it's an album about man and MACHINES so naturally they'd use some technology on it. Maybe some people are still living in the past that's why they don't like it, we are in the age of computers guys. LP just shows us how versatile they can be by making an album with the MAN-MACHINE theme.



This is a fragment of the Robot Boy

You say / you're not gonna fight /
'cause no one will fight for you
And you think / there's not enough love
and no one to give it to
And you're sure
you've hurt for so long
you've got nothing left to lose
So you say / you're not gonna fight
'cause no one will fight for you



At what point here is thrilled about "man and MACHINES" or "MAN-MACHINE theme"???


valkriz said:
did you know that in small groups, there can exist a system where there is NO dominance, if the group is composed of people who will not abide by one trying to gain dominance over the others?



Sorry there are not groups in which there are no decision-making center!!!
For the simple reason that the group could achieve its objectives, someone must define them!

Speaking of goals does not mean I fight for money, etc. Small communities are integrating around common needs (ensure the safety of children, the fight against polluters).

The main difference between a small group and large, lies in the fact that in small leadership is achieved through his own charisma and not money or birth.

And though neither Mike or Chester does not look at themselves as pillars of their own group, objectively, by their own charisma perform such roles

For me here Chester is representative of a more rock vision of LP in the opposition to Mike's rap-electro

As in any modern society, until the two opposing options are freedom of expression, gains the entire society (in this case: LP)

If any part can not say, it breaks the whole!


wow. where should I begin, alright..

FIRST PART: No, it is not the first step in the disintegration of the group because you don't know that. :) A lot of people love the album and there's not any visible proof that they are arguing now. There's not a single hint that they are breaking up.

SECOND PART: Maybe you can show me the link of which interview/video you are referring to?

THIRD PART: Actually, Let me rephrase what I said by quoting LP in one of their interviews --> "On this record, the concepts blend human ideas with technology ... Human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world, the music kind of references that." So yes and no, the album isn't singing about machines and humans, but the music is a reference to it.

FOURTH PART: Let me break it down to you; the decision making body of this group is supposed to be the producer, who is Rick Rubin and Mike Shinoda. But in their interviews and in the making of a thousand suns, I saw that Rick gave them Creative Freedom to do whatever they feel like making, he goes to the studio like ones every 2-3 weeks so the band can make their magic. And while Mike is also supposed to be the decision maker along with Rick, he stresses himself with the input of the other band members. He asks them what they want him to do, and stuff like that. You can say that he's sort of the leader, that's only because; number 1. as you said, he is a strong personality, number 2. He's like the multi-talented member of the group, he works with Chester on the lyrics, works with brad on the techy stuff, works with Joe Hahn on mixes and etc...so people go to him to work on stuff including the sharing of their input, number 3. He's a workaholic, so people automatically relies on him because he's such a reliable person.

Despite the fact that he could practically DO almost everything himself, I saw in the making of their albums, he asks for the individual opinions of the members-that's why he gets frustrated at times, and why would he want to stress himself out when he can decide everything on his own given the fact that he's the co-producer? the answer is simple, the opinions of his band mates are just as important as his own. In one interview he said that they have a sort of structure to how they make songs..they make the music first then the lyrics and then they test it out and get everybody's input on it, that's how they do it with Rick.

To better understand what I'm trying to say, you can watch the interview yourself, I believe it can answer your questions about Mike being the alpha male: http://lptimes.com/news2007/MikeandChester_Walmart.html

I have to go to work, so I probably can't reply after this. lol.

valkriz said:
FIRST PART: No, it is not the first step in the disintegration of the group because you don't know that. :) A lot of people love the album and there's not any visible proof that they are arguing now. There's not a single hint that they are breaking up.

Or did you see Chester expression on this album, or do not understand the so-called body language when he says about it?
That album is no mark of stability in the group and can be seen as mark of stability only by the people who do not understand the meaning of its lyrics
For true artists more important is the ability of self-realization than commercial success.
valkriz said:
THIRD PART: Actually, Let me rephrase what I said by quoting LP in one of their interviews --> "On this record, the concepts blend human ideas with technology ... Human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world, the music kind of references that." So yes and no, the album isn't singing about machines and humans, but the music is a reference to it
valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES


I'm sorry, but I think this album is based on existential questions
Not depending on the time in which people live stubborn stains ask themselves the same questions: the meaning of life, their own role in the universe
Questions do not change, but change the environment, now steeped in technology
For example: "the Robot Boy" the title of which,I suppose suggests you say that this is an album about "man and MACHINES" is about a man who like a robot does not turn his feelings, because life experiences have taught him passivitybut the salvation of this emotional morass is just opening up to the problems of others which express the lyrics: "Hold on / the weight of the world / will give you the strength to go"


valkriz said:
SECOND PART: Maybe you can show me the link of which interview/video you are referring to?


I'm sorry, but my opinions stem from an analysis of the whole. Due respect for the privacy of each member of the LP I will not identify more specific films. I believe that, especially someone as experienced by the curiosity of fans as Chester has the right to respect for his private!
valkriz said:
valkriz said:

To better understand what I'm trying to say, you can watch the interview yourself, I believe it can answer your questions about Mike being the alpha male: http://lptimes.com/news2007/MikeandChester_Walmart.html
valkriz said:

first since 2007 a lot has happened. MTM was for me a creation of joint decisions of LP members and, therefore, is one of my favorites
Secondly, if uncritically believe in everything that people say is another question which I will not comment.


Peggy from Poland said:

valkriz said:
FIRST PART: No, it is not the first step in the disintegration of the group because you don't know that. :) A lot of people love the album and there's not any visible proof that they are arguing now. There's not a single hint that they are breaking up.

Or did you see Chester expression on this album, or do not understand the so-called body language when he says about it?
That album is no mark of stability in the group and can be seen as mark of stability only by the people who do not understand the meaning of its lyrics
For true artists more important is the ability of self-realization than commercial success.
valkriz said:
THIRD PART: Actually, Let me rephrase what I said by quoting LP in one of their interviews --> "On this record, the concepts blend human ideas with technology ... Human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world, the music kind of references that." So yes and no, the album isn't singing about machines and humans, but the music is a reference to it
valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES


I'm sorry, but I think this album is based on existential questions
Not depending on the time in which people live stubborn stains ask themselves the same questions: the meaning of life, their own role in the universe
Questions do not change, but change the environment, now steeped in technology
For example: "the Robot Boy" the title of which,I suppose suggests you say that this is an album about "man and MACHINES" is about a man who like a robot does not turn his feelings, because life experiences have taught him passivitybut the salvation of this emotional morass is just opening up to the problems of others which express the lyrics: "Hold on / the weight of the world / will give you the strength to go"


valkriz said:
SECOND PART: Maybe you can show me the link of which interview/video you are referring to?


I'm sorry, but my opinions stem from an analysis of the whole. Due respect for the privacy of each member of the LP I will not identify more specific films. I believe that, especially someone as experienced by the curiosity of fans as Chester has the right to respect for his private!
valkriz said:
valkriz said:

To better understand what I'm trying to say, you can watch the interview yourself, I believe it can answer your questions about Mike being the alpha male: http://lptimes.com/news2007/MikeandChester_Walmart.html
valkriz said:

first since 2007 a lot has happened. MTM was for me a creation of joint decisions of LP members and, therefore, is one of my favorites
Secondly, if uncritically believe in everything that people say is another question which I will not comment.

FIRST PART: okay. It seems that you're the one who does not understand Chester's body language, and you're reading into everything too much when really, he's just proud of the album. And truth be told maybe you don't like it when you're wrong, that is why you read into things way too much and refuse to see it the way it is. I'll link articles and videos to prove it:

mtv interview:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/572645/linkin-parks-mike-shinoda-exp...

note: its a 7 part interview. Chester is clearly very proud of a thousand suns going as far as telling people to look for something else they like if they don't like the album.

rollingstone article
http://lptimes.com/news2010/july/news07102010.html

Mexican online magazine with Rob and Chester. They all work together.:
http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31272

And I do understand all the lyrics of their songs.lol. Probably more than you do, and the reason why I think they aren't gonna break up is simply because of the fact that they all had fun making the album which you seem to disagree. For true artists, commercial success is indeed not important, never said it was. I'm an artist myself, and for an artist it is important that you convey the vision you want to convey. And if people loves you for it, there's this awesome feeling of accomplishment, and if they don't it doesn't matter as long as you had fun doing it. And that is what linkin park did.

SECOND PART: Like I said, I rephrase what I said on my first post with a quote from the BAND themselves. The album is singing about "human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world" while "the concepts blend human ideas with technology." so "the music kind of references that."

THIRD PART: You over analyze. You refuse to see the truth, thus the excuses and secret analysis. If the videos are out on the internet then its not Private anymore and you're allowed to link it anywhere, unless you have some secret interview with chester with only the two of you that no one has seen before.

FOURTH PART: They made MTM and ATS with SAME process! Rick Rubin is still the producer together with MIKE.
valkriz said:
THIRD PART: Actually, Let me rephrase what I said by quoting LP in one of their interviews --> "On this record, the concepts blend human ideas with technology ... Human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world, the music kind of references that." So yes and no, the album isn't singing about machines and humans, but the music is a reference to it
valkriz said:
it's an album about man and MACHINES


I'm sorry, but I think this album is based on existential questions
Not depending on the time in which people live stubborn stains ask themselves the same questions: the meaning of life, their own role in the universe
Questions do not change, but change the environment, now steeped in technology
For example: "the Robot Boy" the title of which,I suppose suggests you say that this is an album about "man and MACHINES" is about a man who like a robot does not turn his feelings, because life experiences have taught him passivitybut the salvation of this emotional morass is just opening up to the problems of others which express the lyrics: "Hold on / the weight of the world / will give you the strength to go"


valkriz said:
SECOND PART: Maybe you can show me the link of which interview/video you are referring to?


I'm sorry, but my opinions stem from an analysis of the whole. Due respect for the privacy of each member of the LP I will not identify more specific films. I believe that, especially someone as experienced by the curiosity of fans as Chester has the right to respect for his private!
valkriz said:
valkriz said:

To better understand what I'm trying to say, you can watch the interview yourself, I believe it can answer your questions about Mike being the alpha male: http://lptimes.com/news2007/MikeandChester_Walmart.html
valkriz said:

first since 2007 a lot has happened. MTM was for me a creation of joint decisions of LP members and, therefore, is one of my favorites
Secondly, if uncritically believe in everything that people say is another question which I will not comment.



valkriz said:
It seems that you're the one who does not understand Chester's body language

You know what, there is such thing as a universal body language

Your statements indicate that this is for you a brand new concept. So next time before you write you should read something about it! In this case you prove that, apart from ignorance of the foundations of sociology, you also do not know the basics of psychology
In this case, the body language of Chester is exactly the same as Clinton's denying romance with Lewinsky

valkriz said:
note: its a 7 part interview. Chester is clearly very proud of a thousand suns going as far as telling people to look for something else they like if they don't like the album.


unfortunately, if you knew how to turn over the materials available on the internet you would find a lot, unofficial materials that negative his words (those official claims)



valkriz said:
And I do understand all the lyrics of their songs.lol. Probably more than you do

: Like I said, I rephrase what I said on my first post with a quote from the BAND themselves. The album is singing about "human fears, your fear of what's going to happen in the world" while "the concepts blend human ideas with technology." so "the music kind of references that."

Honestly. I think you have just suggested the titles of songs!

Unfortunately, your statement do show a considerable small knowledge and every intelligent person can see it.
Your statements proven as well you can understand their lyrics!


valkriz said:
Rick Rubin is still the producer together with MIKE.

If you want to say that Rick Rubin is the best entity to all LPs, this is yet another reason for the collapse of divination LP!
What true artists are allowed to dominate by the manufacturer
In closing it seems to me that you're one of the creators of techno-pop music, who think preaching comfortable platitudes will gain sympathy of members of the LP.
Your main problem is that you're one of the thousands of sweet pink sweets.
We the constructive critics stand out more in a crowd
Generally prefer a more ambitious music, and people who have something original to say.
FIRST: lol, you're avoiding presentation of evidence. If you really think I missed something on Chester's body language, you should go ahead and tell me what it is I'm missing. Until then, I think you're just misinterpreting him. No reference means nothing after all.

Body language isn't new to me, lady. I just don't know what specific body language you are referring to of Chester that says he's disappointed with the new album, you never pointed it out. If you can show me, I'll believe you.

SECOND: again, failure to provide proof. I'm tired of repeating myself.

THIRD: Those statements aren't mine if you did not understand what I posted, it was from the BAND and I quoted it. Their statement, not mine. So in short, you're saying LP knows little about their own lyrics and you know more. lol.

FOURTH: Rick Rubin isn't the most important entity in the album, he's suppose to be important because he's the producer and producers are suppose to have the final say in everything because they control the finances, BUT THEN in LP's case, Rick put himself on the background and let LP do all the work so they can utilize their creativity to the fullest. So, with Rick it's been the same process of making songs since MTM, he gives them artistic freedom. NOTHINGS CHANGED

Mike is the co-producer, so technically he's supposed to be one of the decision makers who has the final say. But just like Rick, he gives all the members artistic freedom and constantly asks for their input as shown in the making of ATS. When he wrote songs, he always presents the song to the band for constructive criticism as shown on the making of ATS when he asked Brad about his input on the song "IRIDESCENT." Which brings us back to my point; what they did on ATS was collaborative.

And wow, you're drawing conclusions even on me. You accuse me of being one of the creators of techno-pop music which probably stems from the fact that you don't have anything better to throw at me. You're being defensive, we're not talking about me remember? lol. But since you already touched this subject, I'll let you know; though I'm not "one of the makers of techno-pop music", I give every musical artist a chance, regardless of genre, and if I see the art and beauty in it then I consider it great. I'm open-minded. How do you know what you like if you don't give everything a chance.

your criticism isn't considered constructive because who knows if it is even accurate. Even your reading of me is the opposite of who I really am, seriously "sweet pink sweets" and "one of the creators of techno-pop music"? lol. I haven't had a friend who told me I'm sweet, charming maybe, but sweet? never. or a friend who never complains about all the loud queen, linkin park and classical songs bombarded by me all over the workplace or school. I love pranks, I'm not sweet.

And I don't need you're sympathy lol. On the contrary, isn't it the other way around? people disliking the album, trying to convince people who like it that there's something seriously wrong with it. It's amusing. I could care less if you liked a thousand suns or not.


valkriz said:
FIRST: lol, you're avoiding presentation of evidence. If you really think I missed something on Chester's body language, you should go ahead and tell me what it is I'm missing. Until then, I think you're just misinterpreting him. No reference means nothing after all.

First:If you read my post it should be noted that I referred to signs that Chester does not say what he thinks

Secondly, anyone who viewed the internet knows his (very effusive) opinions on this CD
The form of these statements is for every intelligent human, more convincing than what he said for advertising reasons in the official way
Thirdly, I hope that our dispute finally settle over those who, in contrast to some supporters of the ATS can understand its content.
For me it does not count blank sentences, but opinions of people whose skills are sufficient to analyze the facts, because those who do not have them try to drown the truth in a sea of plastic banality.
In order not to sink in a plastic banale finish, hoping that people who have something important to say, and do not try to suck up to profit, will join the discussion

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